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Alastair Strachan
Hi everyone, I'm Alastair Strachan from the RIPE NCC. This chat panel is meant for discussion ONLY. If you have questions for the speaker and you want the session chair to read it out, please write it in the Q&A window stating your name and affiliation. Otherwise, you can ask questions using the microphone icon.
(17:00:16)

Dmitry Kohmanyuk
i think we should just promote few dozens to speakers then things would chaotic and usual
(17:00:18)

Niall O'Reilly
11/05, I think
(17:00:18)

Marco Hogewoning
if you both turn your camera a bit, you can look at each other when speaking :)
(17:00:38)

Daniel Karrenberg_934
oooohhh , that's a real relic.
(17:00:39)

Vladislav Bidikov
we miss that...
(17:00:46)

Denesh Bhabuta
Here is a virtual drink
(17:00:47)

Hervé Clement
what do you prefer as drink ?
(17:00:55)
I can prepare
(17:01:00)

Simon Lockhart
With all this money saved on physical presence, I'm sure RIPE could have shipped drinks to all registered attendees
(17:01:20)

Marco Hogewoning
@herve an aviator please (to compensate for not flying much this year)
(17:01:33)

Hervé Clement
Excellent Marco ! just going to my kitchen
(17:01:54)

Vladislav Bidikov
is there a yes boss moment :?
(17:02:28)
do you miss editing ?
(17:03:13)

Monika Ermert
Mirjam, you are on leave from your day job, right? Who sponsors you?
(17:03:24)

Daniel Karrenberg_934
monika, pols use the q/a, it is the tab with the '?'
(17:04:06)

Simon Lockhart
Aha... found it... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECSYSTEM-20
(17:04:08)

Monika Ermert
Ah, yeah, thanks.
(17:04:28)

Daniel Karrenberg_934
there are questions in the slido
(17:06:23)
.... where they belog
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belong
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Harry Cross
Yes. encompassing both
(17:11:46)
I get the feeling that actually being remote has enlarged the community, and made it easier for new people to enter
(17:12:10)

Daniel Karrenberg_934
iirc we broadcast audio from ripe meetings for a while starting around RIPE9 .....
(17:13:29)

Vladislav Bidikov
for some of us, even flifht connection post covid19 will be quite a issue :|
(17:14:50)

Hervé Clement
as ripe chair
(17:15:20)

Jan Zorz
yes, that was exactly my question, Daniel, thnx!
(17:19:20)

Daniel Karrenberg_934
@hervé: the other RIRs are well aware of our unique way our community is organised. we were talking when all this was set up and exchanging experiences. the other RIRs decided to organise in a way that fitted their regions.
(17:20:42)

Rob Evans
Should the NomCom wear balaclavas next time? :-)
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
Glad that I will not be the next NomCom chair.
(17:21:13)

Vladislav Bidikov
hahahahaha
(17:21:16)

Daniel Karrenberg_934
And use a voice scrambler!
(17:21:25)

Hervé Clement
@Daniel: thanks for your clarification... organisation diversity of our system is really interesting
(17:21:53)

Harry Cross
Do we trust a courier with the internet for handover :P
(17:22:55)

Jan Zorz
Mirjam, make sure that you change batteries in the Internet regularly :)
(17:23:03)

Franziska Lichtblau_691
:D
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Robert Kisteleki
the secretariat will take care of that :)
(17:23:29)

Harry Cross
What happens if the internet is lost by a courier?
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Piotr Strzyżewski
And as this is legacy, it is worth a lot!
(17:23:33)

Jan Zorz
maybe we should improve The Internet to be rechargeable through USB-C port :) :) :)
(17:24:17)

Harry Cross
Who dropped the internet?
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Robert Kisteleki
don't drop the Internet...
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Vladislav Bidikov
well then no standard courier... hand picked and transporeted by a very trusted set of people :D
(17:24:42)

Pablo Nieto Martinez
Just get sure that internet is kept dry!
(17:25:03)

Jan Zorz
...the root DNS rollover people... :)
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Robert Kisteleki
the Elders of the Internet
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Piotr Strzyżewski
I believe these were glasses for some BoF which is going to be ... hmm... tomorrow?
(17:25:23)

Hans Petter Holen
I am not _that_ old...
(17:25:23)

Vladislav Bidikov
no need for those people... we have someone in our ranks :)
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Franziska Lichtblau_691
If we ever move to strict 5 Min lightning talks you'll sense Mirjams hand ;)
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Kurt Kayser
white smoke over the RIPE meeting building "habemus chair"
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Will van Gulik
that was hard to hear
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
what are you drinking
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?
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Jan Zorz
clap clap
(17:27:07)

Daniel Karrenberg_934
appropriate drink!
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Will van Gulik
cheeers
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Ulka Athale
Proost!
(17:27:14)

Franziska Lichtblau_691
clap clap :)
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Martina de Mas
cheers!!!
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
to the health of the chair team!!!!!!
(17:27:21)

Piotr Strzyżewski
Cheers!
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Franziska Lichtblau_691
Cheers !
(17:27:28)

Kurt Kayser
is promoting drugs against code of conduct?
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Alexander Isavnin_920
Cheers!
(17:27:32)

Jan Zorz
to the health of the Chair team!
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Rob Evans
🥂
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Jan Zorz
we need a policy about The Internet black blinking box ;)
(17:28:52)
do we have April 1st RIPE documents track? :D :D :D
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
hans petter is just not going to acknowledge that he has mislaid the internet ;-) ;-)
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Harry Cross
Does the chair's house have space for delivery by pallet?
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Franziska Lichtblau_691
Jan, as of now maybe ;)
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Will van Gulik
v4 was smashed on the ground no ?
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Marco Hogewoning
When will RIPE "shutdown IPv4"? Call it over with, move on?
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Hans Petter Holen
I have not mislaid it.
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I am sure I have it somewhere...
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Oliver Payne
Can we have a picture it with today's newspaper please
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of it*
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Marco Hogewoning
LOL
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
and a ransom demand?
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Vladislav Bidikov
a SpaceX factory with transport via a big rocket :)
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Hans Petter Holen
I dont have todays newspaper. My subscription expired on friday.
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Oliver Payne
🤔
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
excuses .......
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Christoph Berkemeier
You are all missing the problem here. There won't be any food at RIPE 81 Dinner, only cocktails? https://ripe81.ripe.net/programme/social-events/thursday/ ;)
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Jan Zorz
we really need to work on April 1st RIPE documents track :)
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
... and we have a volunteer for that Jan!
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Remco van Mook
the IETF beat us to that one by several decades :)
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Jan Zorz
indeed... but never surrender!!!
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first one should be about The Black Blinking Internet Box
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and all the specs, speccially how to change batteries to keep it going :)
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Franziska Lichtblau_691
You know what will happen once politicians get their hands on a document like that?
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Jan Zorz
ups...
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:D
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Franziska Lichtblau_691
I see what you're doing ;)
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Jan Zorz
giggle
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Robert Scheck
…as long as they just control the black box, they can't harm the real internet? ;)
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Jan Zorz
that *is* the real Internet :) :) :)
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
I happen to know the builder of that box and he builds amazing things. But asking for documentation is another thing .....
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Jan Zorz
hahaha
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Franziska Lichtblau_691
*chrchr*
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
He is a real artist! Interpretation is for the audience.
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Jan Zorz
:)
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is there a warranty attached? 1 year? 2 years? :) :) :)
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Kurt Kayser
wasn't that the "useless box" ?
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Jan Zorz
switch it on!!!
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Denesh Bhabuta
Don;t drop it!
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Wolfgang Tremmel
its wireless!
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
It is not blinking !!!!!!!!
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Jan Zorz
we want bliinking!!!
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Franziska Lichtblau_691
The internet is dead!
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Marco Hogewoning
it is off!
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Dmitry Kohmanyuk
this is THE INTERNET!
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Denesh Bhabuta
Reboot the internet
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Marco Hogewoning
she switched the Internet off
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Wolfgang Tremmel
has it be properly demagnitized?
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Mike Hughes
Did you have to change the batteries?
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Franziska Lichtblau_691
wheeee o/
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Jan Zorz
it's pining for the fjords!
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
YOU SWITCHED OFF THE INTERNET >????????????
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Will van Gulik
ahahha
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Robert Scheck
Reboot of the Internet ;-)
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Vladislav Bidikov
a small reboot
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Marco Hogewoning
Not even a day in office and already that
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Sebastian Gebhard
Now we know what happened to the Meetecho earlier.
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A.J. Wolski
Should it go back to top of the BigBen ? :)
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Denesh Bhabuta
I have UIS so the switch off did not affect my connection.
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Franziska Lichtblau_691
:D especially do not contact he Board is what remco is sayin?
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Harry Cross
_Dutch authorities turn up at the NCC in 3..2..1_
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Marco Hogewoning
@Daniel you said you knew the builder....why on earth did it get an off switch?
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Mike Hughes
It's like the FA Cup. You don't get the real Internet.
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Kurt Kayser
but this really asks for an kill-switch of the Internet - just in case there is some need for it?
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
An artist ......
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Mike Hughes
You just get a small copy of the Internet for you to look at. The real one stays in the NCC office.
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Vladislav Bidikov
i volonteer
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Denesh Bhabuta
Is a mailing list being set up for thattask force?
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:-)
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Marco Hogewoning
Since now we have a vice-chair, maybe we can replace the switch with two keys? So they both need to act?
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Denesh Bhabuta
Who will chair it?
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Franziska Lichtblau_691
First we need a BoF ;)
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Jan Zorz
Keepers of The Black Blinking Internet Box keepers TF
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
first a charter complete with deliverables and time line, THEN a mailing list
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Remco van Mook
then you need a BOFH
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Vladislav Bidikov
to process any requests... and i will forward them to my lawyer (which is a 100kb dog)
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Hans Petter Holen
Remember that mailinglist is running on that particular Internet...
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Seyed Roohollah Marashi
here is 8:10 PM
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Vladislav Bidikov
so the boy is safe
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Peter Koch
informal pre-Bar BoF , please
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Harry Cross
Code of Conduct for the keepers of the internet?
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Vladislav Bidikov
box*
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Ondrej Filip
I support bar-BoF too.
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Denesh Bhabuta
They are marching you out?
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Jan Zorz
support!
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Vladislav Bidikov
+1
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Kurt Kayser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useless_machine
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Denesh Bhabuta
IBTF
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Yup
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
or an Internet Research TF
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Remco van Mook
let's call it the Elders of the Internet
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Hans Petter Holen
Internet Governance taskForce?
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Denesh Bhabuta
*spit*
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Dmitry Kohmanyuk
can you please find IPv4 switch on this thing and move it to OFF position?
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Vladislav Bidikov
Yes that works...
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
INTF Internet Nonsense Task Force
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Jan Zorz
it's a wrap switch inside...
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Dmitry Kohmanyuk
just dont stand on a treadmill when you do that
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Denesh Bhabuta
I am disappointed there is no IPv4+ ability on it
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Steffen Weinreich
but the treatmills!
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
time to call it an evening?
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Peter Koch
ifconfig en0 <>
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)(*()
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Vladislav Bidikov
no no no
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where is the food
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the drinks ?
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Daniel Karrenberg_934
><><><><><
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Dmitry Kohmanyuk
The first rule of IPv4+ is: you do not talk about IPv4+!
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Hans Petter Holen
meet in the bar
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Peter Koch
recovery task force?
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Denesh Bhabuta
Thank you Chairs for making this a fun session.
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Vladislav Bidikov
we are here all day long
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Andreas Härpfer
👏
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Raymond Jetten
Vladislav, check your fridge
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Vladislav Bidikov
see you later and in person :)
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Kurt Kayser
nice evening
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Alastair Strachan
This session has now ended. The next session is Meet the RIPE NCC EB and it will start at 1800. More info on the RIPE 81 meeting plan: https://ripe81.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/
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