Alena Muravska
Morning everyone, I’m Alena Muravska from the RIPE NCC. This chat panel is meant for discussion ONLY. If you have questions for the EB members and you want the session chair to read it out, please write it in the Q&A window stating your name and affiliation. Otherwise, you can ask questions using the microphone icon.
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Livio Morina
This is my first Thursday Morning at RIPE!
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Jean-Daniel Pauget
hello !
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Livio Morina
Virtual W-BoF helps!
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Christian Adler
Good morning
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Gert Döring
good morning!
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Niall O'Reilly
I know this lecture!
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Mirjam Kühne
Good morning, all.
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Andreas Wittkemper_762
Good morning
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Mohamad Boroumandfar
Hi everbody
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Denesh Bhabuta
Good morning Brian
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Good morning all
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James Kennedy
Good morning
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Wolfgang Tremmel
good morning!
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Ondrej Caletka
@Shane: No, meetecho.ripe.net was dual stack from the meeting day one. I tested in on pure IPv6-only and everything worked, except steno.
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Raymond Jetten
Good morning everyone !
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Wessel Sandkuijl
Morning all
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Nadira Al Araj
Still the screen content are not displayed on Meetcho but on life streaming
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Tobias Knecht
Good Morning!
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Ave Ozkal
Good morning y'all
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Niall O'Reilly
Good morning
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Daniel Karrenberg
good morning, brian seems to be a diesel this morning: hard to start and sloooooowly reviing up ..... ;-)
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Oliver Payne
hi Nadira, I will PM you
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Rob Evans
Must have gone to the BoF-that-shall-not-be-named-but-shows-up-on-Friday's-wifi-stats.
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Aaron Hughes
Good morning all
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Ave Ozkal
lol
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Eliot Lear
Good morning everyone
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Alexander Lyamin
I hope everyone had a good cup of coffy. Having antiabuse in first timeslot is inhumane ;)
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Leo Vegoda
Tea
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Denesh Bhabuta
Hot water and lemon!
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Kaveh Ranjbar
I was on spatialchat and had a short visit to the pub :)
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Petrit Hasani
Thank you Brian
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It was my pleasure
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Marco Schmidt
👏 petrit
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Niall O'Reilly
applause++ for Petrit
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Alireza Vaziri
*clap* for Petrit
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Ángel González
👏👏 Petrit
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Daniel Karrenberg
👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏
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Mohamad Boroumandfar
👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏
(10:19:17)
Dmitry Serbulov
Die?
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Leo Vegoda
+1 for this proposal from Erik
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Ángel González
+1
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Shane Kerr
Do we have data to back up Erik's supposition?
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Alexander Lyamin
yep, but what can we do with abuse of abuse-c ?
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Michele Neylon
Which network?
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Shane Kerr
An alternate theory is that anything that costs money will be avoided by some companies if they can. :-)
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Michele Neylon
he mentioned an anti-abuse network?
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oh right
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Florian Streibelt
in germany there also is a anti abuse WG in eco I think
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Michele Neylon
I don't speak Dutch :)
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Florian - there is? I'll have to ask
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Capacity building -= good
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Ángel González
Shane: we need to sell it as saving them money by making it easier :)
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Eliot Lear
Brian mentioned there were already documents available. Is any a RIPE BCOP?
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Michele Neylon
Strongly disagree with Jordi
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Florian Streibelt
@Michele its called "KG Abuse"
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Michele Neylon
Florian - thanks - pinging one of my contacts about it
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Alexander Lyamin
@michele and your arguments for disagreement are ?
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Michele Neylon
I disagree with his entire approach
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Again disagree
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XARF isn't used by IP companies
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Totally disagree with him
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on everything
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Brian Nisbet
I think we've picked up your subtle cues here, Michele. :)
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Michele Neylon
:)
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Ángel González
I don't think rfc 5965 and rfc 6650 would be complete enough
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Alexander Lyamin
Pffff....
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Alireza Vaziri
@Erik We had a brief discussion with new ripe chair on having a training with the help of NCC on abuse handling. Thank for bringing it up
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Robert Scheck
We do not see any usage of XARF on our end…
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Alex Antener
Jordi: 👏🏻
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Michele Neylon
I haven't got an exact percentage of how many reports we get are XARF but it's tiny
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Robert Scheck
I exactly know our number for XARF reports received ever (15 years): z-e-r-o
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Nadira Al Araj
Thanks to the technical person who tried to help me with Meetecho. What is the minimum Internet requirements to work well?
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Ángel González
a problem with X-ARF is that the little support also means that actually formatting that way would make some reports *harder* to handle
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Alexander Lyamin
@Robert LOL metoo
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Muna Hemoudi
@Nadira: nice to see you here again. We are on 250mbps and it works fine!
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Angela Dall'Ara
:-)
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Alexander Lyamin
ty
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Alena Muravska
This session has now ended. The next session is Routing Working Group and it will start at 11.00. More info on the RIPE 81 meeting plan: /programme/meeting-plan/
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