Alena Muravska
Morning everyone, I’m Alena Muravska from the RIPE NCC. This chat panel is meant for discussion ONLY. If you have questions for the EB members and you want the session chair to read it out, please write it in the Q&A window stating your name and affiliation. Otherwise, you can ask questions using the microphone icon.

Livio Morina
This is my first Thursday Morning at RIPE!

Jean-Daniel Pauget
hello !

Livio Morina
Virtual W-BoF helps!

Christian Adler
Good morning

Gert Döring
good morning!

Niall O'Reilly
I know this lecture!

Mirjam Kühne
Good morning, all.

Andreas Wittkemper_762
Good morning

Mohamad Boroumandfar
Hi everbody

Denesh Bhabuta
Good morning Brian
Good morning all

James Kennedy
Good morning

Wolfgang Tremmel
good morning!

Ondrej Caletka
@Shane: No, was dual stack from the meeting day one. I tested in on pure IPv6-only and everything worked, except steno.

Raymond Jetten
Good morning everyone !

Wessel Sandkuijl
Morning all

Nadira Al Araj
Still the screen content are not displayed on Meetcho but on life streaming

Tobias Knecht
Good Morning!

Ave Ozkal
Good morning y'all

Niall O'Reilly
Good morning

Daniel Karrenberg
good morning, brian seems to be a diesel this morning: hard to start and sloooooowly reviing up ..... ;-)

Oliver Payne
hi Nadira, I will PM you

Rob Evans
Must have gone to the BoF-that-shall-not-be-named-but-shows-up-on-Friday's-wifi-stats.

Aaron Hughes
Good morning all

Ave Ozkal

Eliot Lear
Good morning everyone

Alexander Lyamin
I hope everyone had a good cup of coffy. Having antiabuse in first timeslot is inhumane ;)

Leo Vegoda

Denesh Bhabuta
Hot water and lemon!

Kaveh Ranjbar
I was on spatialchat and had a short visit to the pub :)

Petrit Hasani
Thank you Brian
It was my pleasure

Marco Schmidt
👏 petrit

Niall O'Reilly
applause++ for Petrit

Alireza Vaziri
*clap* for Petrit

Ángel González
👏👏 Petrit

Daniel Karrenberg
👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏

Mohamad Boroumandfar
👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏 👏👏

Dmitry Serbulov

Leo Vegoda
+1 for this proposal from Erik

Ángel González

Shane Kerr
Do we have data to back up Erik's supposition?

Alexander Lyamin
yep, but what can we do with abuse of abuse-c ?

Michele Neylon
Which network?

Shane Kerr
An alternate theory is that anything that costs money will be avoided by some companies if they can. :-)

Michele Neylon
he mentioned an anti-abuse network?
oh right

Florian Streibelt
in germany there also is a anti abuse WG in eco I think

Michele Neylon
I don't speak Dutch :)
Florian - there is? I'll have to ask
Capacity building -= good

Ángel González
Shane: we need to sell it as saving them money by making it easier :)

Eliot Lear
Brian mentioned there were already documents available. Is any a RIPE BCOP?

Michele Neylon
Strongly disagree with Jordi

Florian Streibelt
@Michele its called "KG Abuse"

Michele Neylon
Florian - thanks - pinging one of my contacts about it

Alexander Lyamin
@michele and your arguments for disagreement are ?

Michele Neylon
I disagree with his entire approach
Again disagree
XARF isn't used by IP companies
Totally disagree with him
on everything

Brian Nisbet
I think we've picked up your subtle cues here, Michele. :)

Michele Neylon

Ángel González
I don't think rfc 5965 and rfc 6650 would be complete enough

Alexander Lyamin

Alireza Vaziri
@Erik We had a brief discussion with new ripe chair on having a training with the help of NCC on abuse handling. Thank for bringing it up

Robert Scheck
We do not see any usage of XARF on our end…

Alex Antener
Jordi: 👏🏻

Michele Neylon
I haven't got an exact percentage of how many reports we get are XARF but it's tiny

Robert Scheck
I exactly know our number for XARF reports received ever (15 years): z-e-r-o

Nadira Al Araj
Thanks to the technical person who tried to help me with Meetecho. What is the minimum Internet requirements to work well?

Ángel González
a problem with X-ARF is that the little support also means that actually formatting that way would make some reports *harder* to handle

Alexander Lyamin
@Robert LOL metoo

Muna Hemoudi
@Nadira: nice to see you here again. We are on 250mbps and it works fine!

Angela Dall'Ara

Alexander Lyamin

Alena Muravska
This session has now ended. The next session is Routing Working Group and it will start at 11.00. More info on the RIPE 81 meeting plan: /programme/meeting-plan/