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Alastair Strachan
Hi everyone, I'm Alastair Strachan from the RIPE NCC. This chat panel is meant for discussion ONLY. If you have questions for the speaker and you want the session chair to read it out, please write it in the Q&A window stating your name and affiliation. Otherwise, you can ask questions using the microphone icon.
(10:59:36)

Kurt Kayser
@Nathalie: nope didn't know that..
(10:59:51)
@Job Nice hair style!
(11:00:32)

Melchior Aelmans
@Nathalie, great quiz question!
(11:00:33)

Ave Ozkal
Ooh, I really like job's hair today
(11:01:22)

Aaron Hughes
Can that get moved to the mail screen?
(11:01:45)
main
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Michael Daly
@job - can get that up as the main window?
(11:02:03)

Ian Dickinson
yes - too small
(11:02:06)

Michal Wodzinski
double-click
(11:02:07)

Leo Vegoda
If you click on gallery view it becomes full screen
(11:02:12)

Sergey Myasoedov
Press 'expand'
(11:02:13)

Sasha Romijn
Yes, you can click the expand button
(11:02:16)

Ian Dickinson
if i do that, it hangs the video
(11:02:26)

Sergey Myasoedov
wow
(11:02:35)

Gert Döring
works here
(11:02:38)

Sasha Romijn
Meetecho is not optimal for prerecorded sessions :/
(11:03:04)

Job Snijders
double clicking the small screen seems to help. apologies, we thought that prerecording would actually improve reliability of for content delivery
(11:03:14)

Gert Döring
it works, it just came as somewhat of a surprise
(11:03:30)

Kurt Kayser
@Sasha: somehow a kind of cheat in a live session, right?
(11:03:37)

Dmitry Serbulov
why not shared screen?
(11:03:38)

Jerry Lundström
can't you just disable the main screen? so its the only screen showing
(11:03:53)

Shane Kerr
Meetecho also hides the chat window if the video is expanded. Not perfect, but...
(11:03:58)

Ian Dickinson
the video stuff in meetecho has been brittle all week for me
(11:04:09)

Christian Bretterhofer
click on galerry view
(11:04:23)

Sasha Romijn
You can also click "gallery view" in the top - that seems to show chat and a large view of the recording
(11:04:23)

Wolfgang Tremmel
you can detach the chat window
(11:04:24)

Ian Dickinson
now need to restart to get a little but functional video
(11:04:41)
gallery view flipping also hangs
(11:04:55)

Shane Kerr
Ahso. Chat detached, thanks Wolfgang!
(11:05:00)

Sasha Romijn
The challenges of running a two-person presentation during lockdown on a platform I've never used before :)
(11:05:35)

Thomas Schäfer
Galleryview is the simplest solution
(11:06:16)

Tom Hill_518
Meetecho is still being a pain on the 'you're already logged in' dance, every session. No I am not logged in multiple times, Meetecho :|
(11:07:14)
My solution of closing 'other ripe.net tabs' seems to have been a fluke
(11:07:55)

Alessandro Amirante
Tom Hill: the message you got is about your chat nickname being already in use I guess? If so, you shouldn't get it anymore. And anyway that shouldn't prevent you to join successfully
(11:09:16)

Tom Hill_518
Nope, that's not what I'm referring to
(11:11:14)

Alessandro Amirante
I'll PM you then
(11:11:36)

Tom Hill_518
It boots you out completely shortly after joining, sometimes as you're confirming your audio settings
(11:11:38)

Marco d'Itri
Except for having to switch from Firefox to Chrome, which sucks big time, meetecho has been totally stable for me after they added more servers the first day
(11:19:49)

Shane Kerr
Meetecho works using Firefox for me.
(11:20:07)

Ruben van Staveren
same here, though I switched to chrome for spacialchat
(11:20:25)

Shane Kerr
But I totally believe that is not true for everyone!
(11:20:30)

Marco d'Itri
I will try again for the next session, but I used to consistently get the "slow javascript" banner
(11:21:00)

Tom Hill
It works fine after I persevere (in Edge Chromium), there's just something weird that is erroneously causing the "no two people may share the same joining URL" protection. to kick me off
(11:21:18)
I keep joining, eventually it works fine... Perfectly, even
(11:21:37)
I wonder if it's the 'safelinks' crap that O365 have enabled on my corp email...
(11:22:18)

Shane Kerr
Oh, I did have to disable uBlock Origin for Firefox to work onMeetecho.
(11:22:56)

Marco d'Itri
Shane: no problems for me, looks like it is caused by a specific list
(11:25:14)

Blake Willis
this is great, thanks folks
(11:28:07)

Tom Hill
Alessandro - can you PM again? :)
(11:28:15)

Blake Willis
nice hair job
(11:28:18)

Sebastian Becker
Thanks!
(11:28:34)

Dmitry Serbulov
somthing this stenography?
(11:29:22)

Robert Scheck
What does "BSI" expand to?
(11:31:14)

Erik Bais
Britisch Standards Institute
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Cynthia Revström
British Standards Institute
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ah you beat me :p
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Erik Bais
;P
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Robert Scheck
Pewh, at least not the German Federal Office for Information Security (which is also abbreviated with "BSI" in Germany).
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Olaf Baumert
ha! exactly my thought Robert
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Cynthia Revström
lol
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Florian Streibelt
they could ask the german BSI to do the actzual audit for full confusion in the final documents
(11:33:57)

Robert Scheck
No, please not.
(11:34:07)

Erik Bais
lol
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Robert Scheck
I would like to see a non-weakend RPKI ;-)
(11:34:25)

Kurt Kayser
@Florian: yes, please - that would be fun. Acronym battle
(11:34:41)

Cynthia Revström
the WHOIS RFCs are amazing, they basically say "probably us-ascii, bye"
(11:35:31)

Sasha Romijn
I'm not sure whether there are any IRRs out there that follow all the relevant RFCs. And they all violate them in slightly different ways.
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Blake Willis
wow, great job folks
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Kurt Kayser
@Sasha: so are RIPE-xxx documents "better" in terms of quality and relevance than RFCs for operators?
(11:40:41)

Robert Scheck
Do I get it right? RPKI Repository in AWS-only rather multi-vendor-cloud?
(11:41:32)

Blake Willis
"hybrid cloud"
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Kurt Kayser
3 Questions in the queue..
(11:45:02)

Cynthia Revström
the ETSI stuff for WebPKI is quite ummm yeah, I belive Buypass (webpki CA mainly) had some issues when they started automated issuing let's encrypt style
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Marco d'Itri
Cynthia: yes, I think that everybody agrees that WebTrust is MUCH better than the ETSI standard
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Kurt Kayser
@Robert: +!
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+1
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Blake Willis
cloud provider headquartered in the NCC services region would be nice...
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Remco van Mook
blake - we can all dream :)
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Robert Scheck
+1, Blake
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Remco, isn't there e.g. Deutsche Telekom with a cloud? :)
(11:50:09)

Remco van Mook
I might have even stronger opinions about a DT cloud than about AWS cloud :)
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Daniel Karrenberg
@blake: Presonally I agree 100%. We should really really try hard to avoid the big out-of-region ones.
(11:50:40)

Erik Bais
hehe
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Simon Leinen
Personally I would never trust a former phone company as a cloud provider (sorry Rüdiger :-)
(11:50:51)
OVH would be a reasonable option
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Ramses Rodenburg
thx!
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Alastair Strachan
This session has now ended. The next session is IPv6 and it will start at 1300. More info on the RIPE 81 meeting plan: https://ripe81.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/
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