Boris Duval
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(11:01:20)
Kurt Kayser
most asked question in RIPE81: do you see my screen?
(11:01:48)
Elvis Velea_211
Board recommended that vote!
(11:01:50)
Wolfgang Tremmel
my solution to that was to have my iphone monitoring the publish stream
(11:02:21)
Elvis Velea_211
you personally did, as the chair of the meeting.. I sure do miss CK
(11:02:22)
Remco van Mook
the board took over all of the TF recommendations
(11:02:22)
Nathalie Trenaman
Kurt: Fun fact: The most asked question on a Monday morning to the Meet & Greet team in a physical meeting is:......
(11:02:51)
"Where are the toilets"
(11:03:03)
Leo Vegoda
That's a very good question~
(11:03:14)
Jan Zorz
giggle
(11:03:14)
Remco van Mook
I don't see how that has to do with anything but thanks for sharing that with me Elvis
(11:03:19)
Kurt Kayser
@Nathalie: very funny..
(11:03:36)
Mirjam Kühne
So much for explaining to people the difference between RIPE and the RIPE NCC :-)
(11:03:53)
Elvis Velea_211
how many times did you get asked that question this week, Nathalie?
(11:03:56)
Sasha Romijn
As a conference organiser, my experience is that you can plaster the venue with signs about the toilets, and still it will be the most frequently asked question.
(11:04:04)
Ondrej Caletka
Oh. I've seen the slides as well :(
(11:04:07)
Nathalie Trenaman
Elvis: you would be surprised :)
(11:04:08)
Kurt Kayser
@mir: time for a different name to distinguish?
(11:04:12)
Mirjam Kühne
:-)
(11:04:30)
Rumy Kanis
second most asked question at M&G is: when will the t-shirts be handed out
(11:04:42)
Wolfgang Tremmel
sasha: same goes for office buildings. We have the reception to the left, engineering to the right when you exit the elevator. and signs. multiple... guess what...
(11:04:47)
Ondrej Caletka
I propose calling RIPE NCC just The NCC. So there would be the RIPE and the NCC.
(11:04:51)
Elvis Velea
RIPE & RNCC
(11:05:14)
Sasha Romijn
I do really think that the similarity in name increases the confusion.
(11:06:26)
Brian Nisbet
Sasha, it's honestly on my list of "if I had a time machine I would..." :)
(11:06:54)
Nathalie Trenaman
But in other regions it's even worse! They don't even have a distinction in the name...
(11:06:56)
James Blessing
RNC is too close to RNCC for me
(11:07:09)
Nathalie Trenaman
There is no APNIC NCC
(11:07:12)
Elvis Velea
or ARIN
(11:07:21)
Ondrej Caletka
@Nathalie so people cannot make mistakes
(11:07:26)
Shane Kerr
I think more accurately there is no APNIC version of RIPE.
(11:07:29)
And there is on ARIN version of RIPE.
(11:07:35)
There is only the RIPE NCC equivalent.
(11:07:45)
Ondrej Caletka
But it may be much harder to stop people discussing Association issues on the community working groups
(11:07:51)
Kaveh Ranjbar
I agree Shane
(11:07:51)
different policy making a governance models so not possible to compare
(11:08:04)
Shane Kerr
Also true Kaveh. Comparisons are imperfect!
(11:08:21)
Ondrej Caletka
ARIN version of RIPE is called NANOG, isn't it?
(11:08:50)
Randy Bush
asia has apricot
(11:09:13)
Shane Kerr
NANOG has no working groups, I think. NANOG also has no policy discussion, right?
(11:09:17)
Kaveh Ranjbar
One might say RIPE is close to NANOG+ARIN Policy Meeting and RIPE NCC is similar to ARIN, but even then the governance and liabilities are very different
(11:09:33)
Nathalie Trenaman
No wonder people are confused :)
(11:10:08)
Nigel Titley
Diversity is healthy
(11:10:34)
Randy Bush
the purpose of people is confusion
(11:10:43)
Kurt Kayser
Nigel: +1
(11:10:43)
to make it harder for ITU to take over Internet-dictatorship
(11:11:05)
Shane Kerr
Yeah the reason for region-based RIRs is to match the structure and policies to make them work best for the region.
(11:11:19)
Nigel Titley
Exactly
(11:11:30)
Kaveh Ranjbar
Correct Randy but APRICO does not make policy, RIPE does. So probably APRICOT+APNIC Policy SIGs are close to RIPE and APNIC to RIPE NCC
(11:11:32)
Kurt Kayser
APRIRIPE?
(11:12:31)
Randy Bush
emea separates ripe from the ncc but the whois combines the registry and the irr. we are such funny monkeys.
(11:12:42)
Hans Petter Holen
RIPE meetings used to be WGs + plenary with reports from the work done in the WGs. Then European Operators Forum was added at the beginning, which later turned into todays plenary.
(11:12:43)
Kaveh Ranjbar
big +1 Nigel. The region has decided on this model and the good news is the model is open to bottom-up change so if the region thinks there are better models, no one can stop the region to change the governance model
(11:12:43)
Nigel Titley
Kaveh: yes, exactly
(11:13:25)
Nadira Al Araj
Well appreciated efforts and congrat to all who took part of this process
(11:13:57)
Kurt Kayser
@Randy: :-)
(11:15:00)
Wolfgang Tremmel
yes - thanks to the whole NomCom!
(11:15:54)
Kaveh Ranjbar
I actually see all of the ongoing task-forces as RIPE's organic evolutionary process to receive-feedback, understand short-comings, propose changes for a stronger community, and then executing them. So a healthy cycle, as long as they are frequent and constitute results in actual changes.
(11:15:57)
Randy Bush
rüdiger, i miss you in preson
(11:16:54)
Gert Döring
+1
(11:17:03)
Nigel Titley
+1
(11:17:06)
Jan Zorz
+1
(11:17:14)
Robert Scheck
+1
(11:17:22)
Eliot Lear
@Daniel thanks. Chairing a NOMCOM is hard work.
(11:17:35)
Ondrej Caletka
Niall: +1 for pronounciation of my name!
(11:17:37)
Kaveh Ranjbar
May be too sentimental, but since I feel I am among friends, I miss all of you in person!
(11:17:57)
Randy Bush
indeed
(11:18:07)
Nigel Titley
Yep
(11:18:13)
Nathalie Trenaman
very much so
(11:18:16)
Eric van Uden
Confirmed
(11:18:19)
Falk von Bornstaedt
yep
(11:18:24)
Mohsen Souissi
+1
(11:18:28)
Harry Cross
Very much so
(11:18:31)
Mirjam Kühne
Send us a picture, Herve :-)
(11:19:51)
Rumy Kanis
+1 on the picture :)
(11:20:06)
Nurani Nimpuno
:)
(11:20:10)
Anders Mundt Due
it's good to have a virtual ripe, it's a lot better to be there in person.
(11:20:45)
Marco d'Itri
I am not sure, but one upside is that at least I do not need to get dressed
(11:21:10)
Andreas Härpfer
I'd very much like to get dressed to be able to meet you all in person!
(11:21:38)
Niall O'Reilly
@Ondřej: prosím!
(11:21:55)
Nurani Nimpuno
Hello! *waves* :)
(11:23:41)
Paul Rendek
well done Niall
(11:23:44)
Ondrej Caletka
Indeed!
(11:24:18)
Daniel Karrenberg
'prosím' is the word that was suddenl added to the announcements in the Praha subway. Incidentally this co-incided with a mjor political change ... i found it amusing.
(11:26:01)
Nurani Nimpuno
We need good candidates from the number community to the ICANN Board. Please apply!
(11:26:29)
Feel free to approach Hervé, Filiz or me if you have questions about this.
(11:26:47)
Daniel Karrenberg
ICANN board, one bridge too far for me personally .
(11:27:12)
Nurani Nimpuno
The Seat 10 is filled by Akinori Maemura. Ron da Silva's term is coming to an end as Hervé has explained. So this is the other seat on the ICANN Board appointed by the ASO AC.
(11:27:44)
Will van Gulik
merci hervé !
(11:28:06)
Daniel Karrenberg
i agree we need good people on that board though!
(11:28:14)
Kurt Kayser
what's the link between IANA and ICANN-ASO ?
(11:28:16)
Paul Rendek
Thanks Herve!
(11:28:17)
Filiz Yilmaz
Thanks Hervé!
(11:28:27)
Daniel Karrenberg
merci. great improvisation!
(11:28:34)
Nurani Nimpuno
Thanks Hervé!
(11:28:34)
Hervé Clement
Welcome !
(11:28:34)
James Kennedy
Thanks Hervé
(11:28:35)
Piotr Strzyżewski
Thanks !
(11:28:37)
Elvis Velea
clap clap
(11:28:38)
Nigel Titley
*applause*
(11:28:54)
Hervé Clement
and sorry not having been able to show myself
(11:29:04)
Nigel Titley
We'll forgive you :-)
(11:29:15)
Hervé Clement
thnks Nigel
(11:29:22)
Will van Gulik
not a problem, worked out well :)
(11:29:29)
Niall O'Reilly
UTC ftw!
(11:29:49)
Andreas Wittkemper
saying the folks on UTC...
(11:30:04)
Niall O'Reilly
8-)
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