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@nick: this numeber happens when you re-connect and your first handle is still considered active. Nothing Anna can do about that.
Enough is Enough!
does exist, but doesn't work.
We need IPv4+ instead /s
IPv4e (/me runs away)
all extensions to IPv4 would be as incompatible with IPv4 as IPv6.
Run fast, run far. :p
We need to be a little be serious that enterprises are able to follow
wasn't there a proposal on IPv4plus ?
We need to be a little more serious that enterprises are able to follow
FIrst rule of IPv4+: you do not talk about IPv4+
ah, I remember. It is discussed in the Secret WG
TUBA was a proposal back in 1994.
Secret WG denies everything.
Jan: weird. I'd expect Secret WG to deny that they are denying anything
that's what I heard... :)
Secret WG denies ties to spamhaus
so we don't have a denial from the Working group, that is working on IPv4+ ? ... can I cite that?
depends on which WG you mean :)
there is no WG that is working on IPv4+ :D
the one that isn't denying ;)
It's all outdated, apparently we have IPv6+ now.
sounds great !
I'm not joking. Google it.
... do i need to be scared?
> Dr. Latif Ladid, Founder&President of the IPv6 Forum and Chairman of the ETSI IP6 Group, shared the latest innovation from IPv6 to IPv6+ and how to better guarantee new services such as autonomous driving, industrial automation, and VR/AR in 5G and cloud era.
I am scared
IPv6+ seems to just be like "IPv6 but we tie it with 5G and AI and stuff"
Will van Gulik
lots of buzzwords ...
So just marketing fluff
I don't know, because I can not understand what that IPv6+ things is...but as I can see Retevia offering it, I know whom to ask....:)
they should use ipv5 for 5g
blockchain is missing in that description
ipv6+ is a "Bingo joke "
This appeared before/around about the same time that the ETSI ISG submission appeared.
I for one am excited for COVID over IP protocol that they'll need to invent for IPv6+
tell me it is a boring academic working on 5G and AI stuff
@Lucas I wish it was a joke.
academics are not all boring
@Mohamad it isn't :)
nah, COVID only runs over 5G
CoIPv6VID: A vendor proprietary form of constrained IPv6.
@Jen, time to promote RFC8925!
Ah snap, I won't be able to deploy COIPv6VID on our mikrotiks anytime soon it seems
Michael Richardson: it will be mentioned on my slides in 30 mins ;))
Has anybody already introduced the IPv6+ guy to the IPv4+ guy?
Michael: RFC8925 is clearly part of IPv6+ suite :) :) :)
Pls, my industry, it is sick.
I would wait for IPv4++ and IPv6++, because it sounds more advanced.
if you introduce the IPv4+ guy to the IPv6+ guy, you get the IPv10 guy
Jan Zorz: how dare you???! ;)
so from quickly looking it up it looks like a bunch of SR
and i think a beta particle? it's exothermic at least.
@Brian, are you sure? I 4X6=24.
IPv6++ is the object orientated flavor?
Jen: I'm fine... recovered from opening session :)
Brian... are you ok? ;)
it's the first week of post-DST so, as usual, no. :)
@brian: no beta particle, just 6 types of bozons
or bogons, don't remember
but IPv6++ is post-increment so it gets bigger, everytime you write about IPv7++
bogons are a control plane concept
Plenty more bogons, sadly.
Daniel: "Six quarks for Muster Mark! "
Perhaps at some point it becomes critical mass and the whole mess blows up.
I was talking about particles not addresses
Any of the Netnod people alive ?
IRC is that way ->
This is IRC++ :)
I'm not sure about that
Kinda now wondering what would happen if you smash two IP packets together properly, like close to light speed
something something quantum something :)
Marco: Quantum Internet WG is next door
Seems like good work for CERN, not RIPE :p
you can try it out, just plug TX to TX
@marco: not possible IP packets are immaterial, (whereas Latif is material)
@brian I should not be the first to do that, right?
Any NetNodfolx around here?
IP packet with a massive payload that only exists for part of a nanosecond
Whiteboxes rule :-)
Ask Cumulus about that ;-)
Curious as to whether or not this work can be ported to CUDA...
CUDA needs more blockchain for that
only if one finds GTX3080 with two SFP+ ports
now, to be honest, Displayport implements network streams
Some Dell switches used HDMI for stacking...
Yes they did! PC5500 models
so just hook those up to any GPU and write a bit of glue code :D
And add a little glue so the HDMI plugs don't fall off that easily
DELL and D-link switches used just the connector (HDMI) for stacking... pin out quite diferent (and generates blue smoke)
If anyone is interested in talking more about P4/NAT64, you can reach me at nico [at] ungleich [dot] ch
PureLink has their Ultra-Lock-System for HDMI.
who remembers the Test-Traffic-Project? Loved the one-way measurements.
also remember the issues getting GPS antennas on top of datacenters
My Turris is running the virtual probe
50% virtual anchors is interesting.
That half the people went ahead with an anchor hardware purchase, I mean.
The virtual anchors are a new thing, I think.
There was no option when Anchors first appeared.
Hardware 1U box only.
Virtual anchors have existed for 2 years
I still have the old physical anchor... not sure if NCC is still using that ;)
Yeah, recently upgraded 1u Anchor box.
Q 6-million-dollar-man music.
They should be, Jan.
Jan> So do I, and it is still in use.
They mailed me about the upgrade a couple of months ago, then found a way to upgrade the OS.
Hmm, my v1 probe is not too far off Robert's max uptime: 9y 166d 3h 40m
Will van Gulik
Jan: dont you look your traffic there ?
I remember the big deal internally to purchase that box because of who it was coming from.
That is amazing @Rob
yup, our IXP.mk FCSE anchor got updated ...
@brain back of a van?
Even more amazing given the dodgy DHCP server it uses.
My v1: 9y 114d 2h 46m lags Rob's a bit
Not quite, Marco, but iirc the person in question wasn't a fan of formal finance?
Wow, I think I'll hit 100m credits in a week or so
Will: not anymore - it's tiny ;)
oh wait, in a day or so
My v2 died last year. Never had a v1.
My v1 is still going strong!
8GB /year bandwith usage?
hmm... no link on the port - apparently my anchor died for some reason
I'll have a look when I go to go6lab
proud owner of probe 28, 10th oldest still active :)
how do you check that ?
now we're getting a probe contest o/
Will van Gulik
Andreas: Check the ID
Yay, thanks Robert, thanks to the Atlas team!
Will van Gulik
my older died so ;)
The "lowest" number I have is software probe 27 and 28
Thanks, Robert. clap clap
(1000027 - 1000028)
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